OK so that title makes it sound like something crazy; it's not.
here's what it is... I work in a touring acting troupe. this means that we are with each other ALL of the time. It's just the twelve of us doing all the loading in and out, performing, costume maintenance, etc. I am lucky enough to be on the road with my fiancee so I never have to share a room with anyone but him. However there is this one girl who drives me up the wall. She can be EXTREMELY passive aggressive, and has no concept of respect for other people or their property. She definitely comes from money so nothing has value to her. all of these terrible traits aside she is dating another member of the troupe. He can be kind of an *sshole so I think they are quite perfect for each other.
A few weeks ago we had a sort of bust up and had a talk about it. I explained to her that we are very different personalities (i.e. she wants everyone to be her friend, I am very picky about who I let into my personal life and so on and so on) and that we weren't necessarily going to get along by default. she brought up the fact that she finds it irritating that our other co-workers think that a relationship is all she needs (many people dislike her for a myriad of reason) she says that it's not but she'll take what she can get. At the time i commiserated because I'm the only other girl on the tour in a relationship with someone close enough to touch. but then I began to think about it more deeply.
from week one of she and her boyfriend getting together on the tour they have been very public with their affection. they are very touchy in the car (where we all have to sit together for long drives from one venue to the next) and kiss a lot in front of everyone else. they hold hands and do those honeymooner type things. Now, I am very anti-PDA. I will not really let my boyfriend kiss on me in public. I think that is something for your private time, not something you have to display to the world. It's for me anyway, so why would I want the world to get a free show? So i thought about this conversation that we had had, and figured out that SHE was the one who set the standard. SHE was the one who let everyone else know how she would like to be treated: as part of a couple. Neither she nor her boyf make any effort to keep it to themselves, even at work (during shows, backstage) and that just not right. We are in a situation where we cannot get away from anyone and there are people who are very sad about their own relationship status. there is one guy who is away from his wife. Overall I just find it rude to shove that in everyone's faces. Also, being part of the only other couple on the road, I have gone to good lengths to keep my private business exactly that, and I find it thoughtless of the other couple to flaunt their status.
So, here's my dilemma. Since she and I had a conversation about it a few weeks ago, should I go to her and tell her of my later discovery (with all kindness and tact) or should I just keep it to myself?
Derek Lam
APC
Camper
if its annoying everyone else why dont you just tell her straight up? but be nice about it. everyone has different ways of handling their own personal stuff, and she has every right to her own "view" of the whole PDA thing too. maybe just let her know that it makes some people uncomfortable and you'd appreciate it if she could refrain from doing so?
1I don't see the big deal in holding hands or a kiss. If they are pawing at each other and its made people uncomfortable, then maybe the group, not just you, should ask them to be more professional.
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2"We're forced to bed, But we're free to dream" Gord Downie
I would say something... You have to be around her for a length of time, and no one wants to be uncomfortable in that setting. It probably does bother other people, and as long as youre tactful about your approach.. You could be helping out others as well!
3Yeah it's a tough situation. I know that it bothers other people, but no one wants to approach it because she has a tendency to overreact and take everything peronally...... so part of me says "I don't want to be the one to tell her" because that means I get the flack for actually stepping up and doing it. sigh....
4oh boy, i know the kind you're talking about! i guess you'll just have to risk it and tell her anyways?
5oh boy, i know the kind you're talking about! i guess you'll just have to risk it and tell her anyways?
6I think being honest is the best way to go. And sometimes the truth hurts. I'd say go for it and tell her the truth.....
Jacki
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I'd tell her too...but make it seem like you are truly concerned that she is going to make some people uncomfortable. I have been there and it is much better to get it all out rather than wait and let it build up until you freak out at her one day for no reason at all. Who knows she might get upset at you, but at least you will feel better because you tried and you told her how you feel. Sounds like she needs to hear it...the only thing is, she sounds like the type that may not listen to you.
8If, you tell her..she might do it more in spite of you. I would have the group, as a whole talk to her. Or, I would just blow it off...it's like that in the honeymoon phase of dating with some couples. The people who are the MOST uncomfortable should actually be the ones to say something. This is just my opinion for what it's worth.
9Beach- Dont you think if the entire group talked to her about something she would feel more uncomfortable witht he confrontatio?.. I know that if i had a group of ppl sit me down to tell me stuff and i was the only one being singled out i would be upset..
Heres an idea along those lines.. Maybe you could have a group venting session.. ALL of you sit down and ALL of you can say what bothers you about the other ppl.. in a nice way
10Christina, actually in the grand scheme of life..I would let it go. I'm not trying to act like this is an insignificant problem for Geekysugar but, I'm just thinking she might regret even bringing this topic up. I think tolerance and patience are good things to learn. Also, I think it's good to get out your anger and/or frustration in a more constructive manner. I'm saying all this in the most sincere way.
11I know what you mean Beach...
12Part of me can't tell if these things annoy me because she and I are so very different that everything about her annoys me. So part of me is just trying to learn how to take it in stride and let it go.. I still can't really decide what to do.
Thanks for all of the tips everyone
Geekysugar, thank you for understanding me. Good luck with whatever you chose to do.
13On the annoying thing: I would really try to avoid her drama as much as possible, from your description she seems to feed off it, so the key is to just brush it off and not get sucked in to a conversation with her about it. I appreciate this is easier said than done! I have a workmate like this and the best thing I ever said to her was "I dont want to talk about it". It shut her down completely. She still b*tched to everyone else about me, but they all think she's annoying anyway, so no biggie!
On the PDA issue. I appreciate its not your bag and that is cool. But...I dont think its being insensitive to PDA in front of the other members of the troupe. They all made their decisions to be away from their partners and you guys are with your partners. They may be tacky, but they shouldnt have to pretend they dont want to touch each other when they actually do, just to avoid hurting someone elses feelings.
14İ would leave it to someone else to tell her because you and her dont seem to get on and it might come across wrong from you. Prehaps if you talk to the other members of the group and ask one of them to have a word it might come across better dont let it get you down though.
15I have to kind of agree with maggieNZ on the PDA topic. Unless they're really being obscene (tongue-kissing, groping, etc) or it's affecting their work (i.e. missing cues because they're too busy making out - and I've worked with actors like that!), I don't think it's too big of a deal. Also, unless you know for sure that others are bothered by it, it might not be the best idea to represent it as such.
Myself, I'm in a relatively new relationship, and sometimes, I just want to touch him. I try to be low key about it, and never shove it in our single friends' faces, but I'm not going to live my life worried about what others might think all the time - I'll be polite, but within reason. If she obviously doesn't care at all, then it might be time for a friendly chat.
And like others have said, I'd consider the possible impact. If she's the type to be even more PDA-filled or spiteful in another way if you do have a chat with her, well, it might not be worth it. If you think there's a chance she'd listen if you or another member talked to her about it, well, then it's probably worth a try. Good luck!
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